Francis Elliott Chief, Political Correspondent
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David Cameron toughened his stance on a range of law and order issues yesterday pledging to introduce minimum sentences without parole and extend police powers to stop and search suspects.
The Tory leader said that beat officers should use the power at their own discretion and without the need to fill in a form. He also suggested that convicts could be sent to prison ships rather than released early.
The murder of Rhys Jones should serve as a “line in the sand” in the fight against crime, he said, accusing Gordon Brown of being in denial over the extent of social breakdown. “It is simply unacceptable, a moral reproach to our country, that someone should have the opportunity and the inclination to kill an 11-year-old child with a handgun,” Mr Cameron said, publicising existing and new policies.
Mr Cameron’s latest intervention on crime is his third in a little over a week and marks a growing confidence that his claim that Britain is a broken society is in tune with public opinion. Flanked by David Davis, the Shadow Home Secretary, and Nick Herbert, the Shadow Justice Secretary, the Tory leader said that it would take a generation to address deep-seated problems that could not be solved by government action alone.
Criticising Labour’s “headline-chasing” approach to law and order, the Conservatives nevertheless unveiled their own eye-catching initiatives. Potentially most significant is the commitment to introduce minimum sentences during which prisoners would not be eligible for parole. In the short term the Tories say that prisoners could be required to share cells, so called “doubling up”, or be transferred to prison ships and army camps rather than be released early, the controversial expedient approved by ministers this summer to relieve overcrowding.
Other new policy suggestions include making pubs and bars responsible for the behaviour of drinkers immediately outside their premises and a review of the classification of violent films and video games.
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Stop and search by all means yes our streets should be safe.I wouldnt mind any member of my family being searched if the wider application of stop and search takes any drugs/guns/knives off the streets.A childs life is worth so much more than anyones inconvenience or a stroppy adolescent being offended.The government/police/adults do need to target their presence wherever there is a concern about the safety of our citizens.Those most likely to be offended are also those most likely to be at risk of violence.
If one is innocent of wrongdoing stop and search is only an inconvenience.
Frances , Tunbridge Wells, UK
So far as I'm aware, the police are already able to stop and search anyone they like, or rather that they don't like. With or without good cause. The only thing they seem to be missing is the right to stop, search and beat a submission out of suspects - and some are alleged to take it upon themselves to do it anyway. When will our MPs realise that the laws are already in place to deal with all crimes, the only thing we lack is the will to use them correctly and the empowerment of judges to pass sentence as they think fit. Of course the other requirement is to have prisons to lock miscreants into.
Mike Poulsen, Reading, Berkshire
Whilst I agree that the abhorrant killing of Rhys Jones has shocked the nation and calls for some sort of intervention by the Government, I cannot agree that this justifies an approach of increasing the stop and search powers of the police.
Such an approach could only be described as a knee-jerk reaction and a non-sensical approach towards a system already riddled with abuses of discretion. Furthermore it seems unlikely that the pivotal requirement of "reasonable suspicion" can be held as a major restriction on the current failing system. Therefore, although it is evident that something must be done, adding to the already, some might say unfettered discretion of agent's using stop and search powers, seems unlikely to avoid such events for the future.
jenna mcdade, midlands,
I beg to differ. The comparison between the Middle East and England is incorrect, if not inaccurate. It is noteworthy that these two countries are at contrasting stages of economic developments, hence, crime rates will accordingly be different. Also, it's specious to say that victims' rights should take precedence over criminal's human rights. Why can't the former and latter be subjected to equal treatment?
By the way, your proposal of a more severe punishment to curb crime rates is highly inconclusive. Take Malaysia for example, where the act of drug trafficking carries a mandatory death sentence. Yet, nearly everyday we see and read of brave souls who transport huge amounts of drugs into the country.
Phoon, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
What a ridiculous statement, we are already on the way to a police state and this will not help at all, why does Mr Cameron think the situation is as bad as it is ? could it be because the ordinary people on the street see the police force for what they are becoming, a force used to oppress them and not to help them, I wonder what the family of the deceased Mr Menezes think of even more police powers ? A short does of reality is needed for the idiots in power as well as a radical shake up of the police force higher echelons
Keith Reidie, Letchworth, U.K.
more police, more stop and search - guaranteed to make the streets safer. and if certain groups feel they are being picked on repeatedly, tough. it's better than being shot, robbed or hounded.
prison should be so horrible that no one wants to go. forget tv, gym and library. prisoners should be made to work and learn. and they should be educated in acceptable behaviour - manners and consideration for others need to be taught and parents clearly aren't up to it.
of course, with more police on the beat, crime would be prevented. and there'd be less need for prison. a bobby on every corner would be nice.
jem, london, uk
Surely if a punishment is severe enough then crime will drop, and poverty and low wages are not the cause; the middle east has both but the crime rate is low enough to be negligible compared with England. And forget about human rights for criminals before and during punishmment, shouldn't victims' rights take precedence? And as for the situation of a criminal who receive compensation for being hurt when his life was being saved after attempted suicide makes a mockery of the justice system - he received more compensation than many severly injured victimes. The law in england is a joke, maybe that's why the influx of criminals to this country is higher than any time in history - including the likes of the roman invasion.
TP Southport, Southport, England